Comments on: We have abandoned IE6 http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/ Talking about websites Sat, 05 May 2012 06:25:25 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Gianna Patterson http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-2441 Gianna Patterson Thu, 06 May 2010 20:23:36 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-2441 Internet Explorer 8 have been my most used browser this year, it is definitely stable and fast loading too. ~ Internet Explorer 8 have been my most used browser this year, it is definitely stable and fast loading too. ~

]]> By: Mason Adams http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-2429 Mason Adams Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:54:32 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-2429 Internet Explorer 8 is very good because it is as stable as Opera. I hate the previous versions of IE like IE6 because it hangs frequently. : Internet Explorer 8 is very good because it is as stable as Opera. I hate the previous versions of IE like IE6 because it hangs frequently. :

]]> By: Break the Application Habit | Waxcreative Design Blog http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-2306 Break the Application Habit | Waxcreative Design Blog Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:08:27 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-2306 [...] for poor web standards. And while it has gotten better in the two major releases since the piss-poor IE6, IE remains a faulty browser that requires a host of hacks. For instance, javascript, that basic [...] [...] for poor web standards. And while it has gotten better in the two major releases since the piss-poor IE6, IE remains a faulty browser that requires a host of hacks. For instance, javascript, that basic [...]

]]> By: Haven Rich http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1768 Haven Rich Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:36:10 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-1768 My only concern with banning IE 6 are the users who are unable to upgrade or are on such systems as MSNtv (formally known as WebTV). These users aren't able to upgrade or able to view higher quality sites, which really is a shame. But are we to say tough on you for not being able to afford better systems or able to upgrade? I agree with the economy the way it is, no one can afford to waste valuable time or energy. Or money for upgrading systems when the ones they have work (just not as great as newer ones). I do wish however that people could stop using IE 6 and below. Oh what a sweet world that would be! BTW, I have an old dinosaur pc that doesn't have enough storage space to upgrade to anything higher IE 5! But it's a trooper and still keeps going. My only concern with banning IE 6 are the users who are unable to upgrade or are on such systems as MSNtv (formally known as WebTV). These users aren’t able to upgrade or able to view higher quality sites, which really is a shame. But are we to say tough on you for not being able to afford better systems or able to upgrade?

I agree with the economy the way it is, no one can afford to waste valuable time or energy. Or money for upgrading systems when the ones they have work (just not as great as newer ones).

I do wish however that people could stop using IE 6 and below. Oh what a sweet world that would be!

BTW, I have an old dinosaur pc that doesn’t have enough storage space to upgrade to anything higher IE 5! But it’s a trooper and still keeps going.

]]> By: Chris Winter http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1762 Chris Winter Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:15:25 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-1762 Emily Cotler wrote (in part): <i>"I shudder to think how our own home page renders to them (and 13% of our traffic this past month alone was on IE6 — 13%!!) These IE6-ers either don’t care or are too clueless to understand. I don’t mock cluelessness, but if they are that ill-connected, why are we devoting so much money to coddling their ignorance?"</i> Your site looks fine to me in IE6. (But shortly I'll try it with Firefox 3.0/3.5 and Opera, for comparison.) I use IE6 for an abbreviated list of favorites, like job listings on Craigslist (which is why I hit your site with it first.) I'd happily upgrade to a newer version, but as I am stuck with Windows 2000 this is not an option. I wonder how many others have a similar constraint. I use Firefox 3.5 for general browsing, and always update it to the latest version. I keep FF3.0 and Opera for compatibility checks. Emily Cotler wrote (in part): “I shudder to think how our own home page renders to them (and 13% of our traffic this past month alone was on IE6 — 13%!!) These IE6-ers either don’t care or are too clueless to understand. I don’t mock cluelessness, but if they are that ill-connected, why are we devoting so much money to coddling their ignorance?”

Your site looks fine to me in IE6. (But shortly I’ll try it with Firefox 3.0/3.5 and Opera, for comparison.)

I use IE6 for an abbreviated list of favorites, like job listings on Craigslist (which is why I hit your site with it first.) I’d happily upgrade to a newer version, but as I am stuck with Windows 2000 this is not an option. I wonder how many others have a similar constraint.

I use Firefox 3.5 for general browsing, and always update it to the latest version. I keep FF3.0 and Opera for compatibility checks.

]]> By: Emily Cotler http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1741 Emily Cotler Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:04:17 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-1741 Wow! Thanks for all the great links, Jake. Great point about Digg and YouTube. --Emily Wow! Thanks for all the great links, Jake. Great point about Digg and YouTube.
–Emily

]]> By: jake_ie8team http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1737 jake_ie8team Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:53:41 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-1737 If you want to update from IE 6 to continue visiting websites that are ending support for that browser version. update to IE 8 here - http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx Plenty of popular websites like Digg and YouTube have announced that they are also ending support for IE 6, so if you want to keep watching videos on YouTube, I would suggest upgrading. However, if you still need more convincing, here are eight more reasons why you should upgrade - http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/default.aspx And if you have any problems with installation, check out this guide from the IE Solution Center - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949220 - Jake MSFT Internet Explorer Outreach Team If you want to update from IE 6 to continue visiting websites that are ending support for that browser version. update to IE 8 here – http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/default.aspx

Plenty of popular websites like Digg and YouTube have announced that they are also ending support for IE 6, so if you want to keep watching videos on YouTube, I would suggest upgrading. However, if you still need more convincing, here are eight more reasons why you should upgrade – http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/get-the-facts/default.aspx

And if you have any problems with installation, check out this guide from the IE Solution Center – http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949220

– Jake

MSFT Internet Explorer Outreach Team

]]> By: Abi Bowling http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1736 Abi Bowling Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:39:58 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-1736 Oh, and by the way, if you are unsure as to what version of IE you are running, it is super easy to find out: - Open up IE - Click on "Help" in your menu bar - Choose "About Internet Explorer" - a box will pop up and hopefully it will say Version: 7.x or higher! Oh, and by the way, if you are unsure as to what version of IE you are running, it is super easy to find out:

- Open up IE
- Click on “Help” in your menu bar
- Choose “About Internet Explorer”
- a box will pop up and hopefully it will say Version: 7.x or higher!

]]> By: Abi Bowling http://waxcreative.com/blog/2009/08/why-we-have-abandoned-ie6/comment-page-1/#comment-1735 Abi Bowling Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:36:51 +0000 http://waxcreative.com/blog/?p=1153#comment-1735 I cannot agree more whole-heartedly with this post. I am not much of an IE user to begin with, preferring to use Firefox instead (though I must admit I have not tried out IE8 yet -- I hear it is pretty good). Still, I know that the majority of the folks who visit the sites we design and maintain are indeed IE users. This is why we applied IE6 hacks for so long. While working on a site last year, I exclaimed, frustratingly, that we were enabling the technically lazy in the world by applying all these hacks. At that point, almost half of our browsing audience was still on IE6. I'm pleased to see that that percentage has gone down, but even so, to see that over ten percent of our browsing audience is still on IE? I stand firm with Emily with a megaphone (though, if you have met us, you would know we probably don't need megaphones) to say: COME ON PEOPLE! UPGRADE! IE6 MUST DIE! I cannot agree more whole-heartedly with this post.

I am not much of an IE user to begin with, preferring to use Firefox instead (though I must admit I have not tried out IE8 yet — I hear it is pretty good). Still, I know that the majority of the folks who visit the sites we design and maintain are indeed IE users. This is why we applied IE6 hacks for so long.

While working on a site last year, I exclaimed, frustratingly, that we were enabling the technically lazy in the world by applying all these hacks. At that point, almost half of our browsing audience was still on IE6. I’m pleased to see that that percentage has gone down, but even so, to see that over ten percent of our browsing audience is still on IE? I stand firm with Emily with a megaphone (though, if you have met us, you would know we probably don’t need megaphones) to say: COME ON PEOPLE! UPGRADE! IE6 MUST DIE!

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